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Self improvement is another notable theme in Bojack Horseman, along with nihilism, which I've written about before.
However, some have argued that Bojack has done too many bad things to be a good or relatable character. As if he's Walter White or something (a character that I don't think is redeemable, by the way -- he did all of that because of his ego). I think that these viewers may be on a moral high horse; characters who do bad things are compelling, and that relating to a character who does bad things doesn't mean you approve of everything they do.
So, this is a part of the show that has sparked some disagreement. I'm not arguing something that's a given to everyone.
That being said, let's Get Into Things. Let's Get Real. (© Mr. Peanutbutter)
Part 1: You are the things that you do...
Bojack does not think that he's redeemable, and for some good reasons. But his pre-conceived notion of himself impacts a lot of his decisions, and makes it more difficult for him to change.
Here's a list of several instances that demonstrate how Bojack views himself, and how other characters view him, as well as some general thoughts on forgiveness/redemption.
1) Season 1 episode 8 - "I don't forgive you."
Herb refuses to forgive Bojack, and says: "I'm not gonna give you closure. You don't get that. You have to live with the shitty thing you did for the rest of your life. You have to know that it's never, ever going to be okay. [...] I'm not going to be your prop so that you can feel better."
I really love this scene, and it's the first Great Scene in the series, in my opinion. It sets up some important messages that are reinforced throughout:
- Forgiveness is not owed to anyone. You're under no obligation to forgive people who hurt you.
- It can be selfish to seek forgiveness.
2) Season 1 episode 9 - "Sometimes I feel like I was born with a leak..."
"...and any goodness I started with just slowly spilled out out of me, and now it's all gone, and I'll never get it back in me. It's too late. Life is a series of closing doors, isn't it?" - Bojack
I quote that last part far too often, cause it's a hilariously bleak thing to say. Not much you can analyze about this scene: Bojack thinks he's a bad person. Pretty straightforward.
3) Season 1 episode 11 - "Tell me I'm good."
Even though Bojack likes to fetishize his own sadness, he wants to believe in a "deep down" and he's desperate for someone to tell him that he's a good person, deep down, in spite of the things that he's done. He hates himself, but he still wants everyone to love him -- as Princess Carolyn told him in the very first episode, this isn't possible. Self-hatred is destructive and poisons relationships.
4) Season 1 episode 12 - "I don't think I believe in deep down. I kinda think that all you are is just the things that you do."
Diane responds to the question Bojack posed in the previous episode, and explains why she couldn't tell him that he's a good person. She has no reason to believe he's a good person, because she's seen him do more shitty things than good things; like get in a physical fight with a terminally ill man, and kiss a married woman.
It's hard to come to terms with the fact that other people's perception of you is who you are. If the people closest to you have some criticisms, you should really take that to heart. Bojack doesn't react well to this; he wants to be comforted and told he's a good person without having to do any of the work.
5) Season 2 episode 11 - "It hurts when I do this." "Don't do that."
This joke is such a simple exchange between Charlotte and Bojack, but it's really something he should have taken to heart. Bojack loves his own pain.
6) Season 3 episode 7 - "Do you do bad things so that when people inevitably leave you, you can say 'It's not me, it's that bad thing I did'?"
More ruminations on Bojack's self-destructive streak. It's likely that The Closer has hit the nail on the head with this one; even Bojack says she's "hitting on something real." When he feels a relationship slipping away, he'll impulsively do something to destroy it. When Charlotte rejected him, he almost slept with Penny. When Todd began spending more time with Emily, he slept with Emily.
7) Season 3 episode 10 - "You are all the things that are wrong with you."
Oof. I love this line. Todd cuts right through all of Bojack's bullshit and refuses to be distracted by his excuses. At a certain point, there's no excuse; just be better.
8) Season 3 episode 11 - "People change because they have to change."
We're privy to this scene, but according to Sarah Lynn's recollection, Bojack then droned on about how he's never going to change, and they cancelled the AA meeting because everyone got bummed out. This little bit of wisdom from the bird becomes relevant in the aftermath of Sarah Lynn's death; Bojack does change in season 4. As I'll explain in part two, he doesn't repeat the mistakes he made with Sarah Lynn.
9) Season 3 episode 12 - "I come from poison."
"I have poison inside me, and I destroy everything I touch. That's my legacy. I have nothing to show for the life that I've lived, and I have nobody in my life who's better off for having known me."
Damn, Bojack, tell us how you really feel. After this dark moment, Diane tells him (for the first time) that Horsin' Around helped her through her difficult childhood, and that thousands of people are better off because of him. This is a moment of generosity and vulnerability for Diane, and it does make Bojack feel better.
10) Season 4 episode 6 - "Stupid Piece of Sh*t"
It's difficult to pull a specific quote from this episode, because the entire episode demonstrates Bojack's view of himself. But the most valuable insight is that he pushes Hollyhock away because he thinks he will fuck it up. This is a self-fulfilling prophecy, and an easy trap to fall into. But it's not sympathetic when someone whines about how they're going to ruin a relationship so they cut it off before giving it a chance. Get your shit together, and put in the work.
And at the end of the episode, Bojack does put in the work. He cuts off his mental spiraling and goes to talk to Hollyhock, and tells her that him being distant doesn't mean he hates her. If he had allowed himself to continue to wallow, their relationship would have never had a chance.
Part 2: ... so you have to do better.
According to the logic of the show, Bojack can only redeem himself if he stops doing bad things -- so, has he?
I want to talk about three parallel relationships and situations that demonstrate how Bojack has learned from his mistakes.
1) Herb and Kelsey
This is the most obvious connection of these. Two gay directors that were fired under circumstances that were partially Bojack's fault, and whom he neglected to apologize to (or even reach out to) afterward. This is as parallel as a parallel can parallel.
In Herb's situation, it's bad enough that he doesn't stand up for his friend after promising he would. He's talked out of it fairly easily, when the network exec dangles the shiny carrot of Secretariat in front of his eyes (cause he's a horse -- get it? (and I'm a horse. And you're a horse. Do you get my joke?)). But what Herb really takes issue with is the fact that Bojack abandoned him afterward, out of his own shame. Maybe it was too big of a hurdle to maintain their friendship, but it might have been possible if Bojack has spoken to Herb immediately afterward instead of decades later.
When Kelsey is fired, Bojack doesn't do anything. He eventually leaves the movie, but only because he hates the new director. He doesn't try to reach out to Kelsey until he sees her in at the Pacific Ocean Film Festival. If he hadn't run into her, he may have never tried to apologize.
"Fish Out of Water" is a great episode on every level, and it represents some growth for Bojack. The dreamlike quality of a foreign, underwater setting is the perfect backdrop for an episode about failing to communicate. He keeps facing ridiculous set-backs, and when he's finally able to hand her the note, the words have been washed away. But what he wrote says all that we need to know about his growth:
"Kelsey, In this terrifying world, all that we have are the connections that we make. I'm sorry you got fired. I'm sorry I never called you after."
He's thinking about what happened with Herb, and even though he made the same mistake twice, he knows the right thing to say now, and he tries to say it.
Although the barriers to communication in this episode are external, I think the episode is really about Bojack's internal barriers. In both cases, with Herb and with Kelsey, he feels guilty about what happened, and he's not sure how to make it better, so he just avoids it altogether -- which makes it worse.
2) Sarah Lynn, Penny, and Hollyhock -- Bojack's daughters/not daughters.
This is a messy equivalency, considering he slept with/tried to sleep with the first two, but Bojack makes the comparison himself in the season 4 episode, "Stupid Piece of Sh*t."
Bojack's mistake with Sarah Lynn and Penny was primarily that he allowed them to do whatever they wanted and didn't establish any boundaries. Whenever Sarah Lynn wanted to party, he was her enabler. He tried once to be more of a father to her and put some limits on what was allowed, but instantly caved. He wanted her to like him more than he cared about her well-being -- which is, you know, the opposite of good parenting.
The situation with Penny is somewhat similar. He doesn't treat her like a kid, which she appreciates, but is pretty inappropriate; she's 17 and he's in his 50s, and he should not be buying her and her friends alcohol. This failure to establish an adult/child boundary leads to more... shenanigans.
At first, when she kisses him, he draws a clear boundary by saying that she doesn't know what she wants. This is very parental -- the classic "I know what's best for you." This instantly puts Penny back in the position of feeling like a child.
Just a short time later, he literally leaves the door open instead of setting a boundary. Because she's young, she makes the bad decision and goes into his room. He allows her to make the choice, knowing that she's going to make the wrong one. He should not have left the choice up to her at all.
This is, I think, the worst thing that Bojack has done, and without a doubt the one things that some viewers point to as making him an irredeemable character.
The rejection from Charlotte puts him back in the headspace he was in with Sarah Lynn, in season 1 -- he's an emotionally stunted pushover who wants everyone to like him. It's hard to understand why he makes this terrible mistake with Penny; there's an element of self-sabotage in there for sure, as I mentioned above.
But it's also about his maturity; earlier in the season, Kelsey says that Bojack is so emotionally stunted he's basically a teenager. He want to have an adult relationship with Charlotte, but she rejects him, so he sort of... regresses. This is similar to the explanation that the creators have given; mentally, he's basically a teenager so he doesn't see that it's wrong to take advantage of a 17-year-old.
With Hollyhock, he makes a more serious effort at being a father, since, for all they know, he actually is her father. He stays up waiting for her when she's out, and investigates her new boyfriend. When he thinks that she's been taking drugs, he flushes them all. This is a departure from the Bojack that enabled Sarah Lynn's drug abuse and bought alcohol for Penny and her teenage friends. He's coming fresh off of Sarah Lynn's overdose, which he blames himself for, so he's not about to repeat that mistake.
The most important aspect of the Hollyhock storyline, however, is how he puts her wellbeing above their relationship, and whether or not he's liked. He calls her dads to tell them that what happened is not Hollyhock's fault -- not to tell them that it's not his fault. Bojack blames himself and even though there's nothing in it for him, he still wants her dads to know the truth. Just imagine how season 1 Bojack would have handled this situation... He's grown a lot since his encounters with Sarah Lynn and even Penny, where his priority was being liked. With Hollyhock, he's willing to be the adult and put her wellbeing first.
3) Todd: rock opera, improv, and Cabracadabra.
Bojack's devious plan to sabotage Todd's rock opera is hilarious, but it's still a shitty thing to do. Instead of just telling Todd that he values him as a friend, he clips his wings in an elaborate scheme that makes Todd feel like an incompetent loser.
When Todd joins the improv cult (which is not a stand-in for Scientology!), Bojack is again faced with the possibility of Todd leaving him. At first, he lets Todd go and pretends that it doesn't bother him. But then he makes a grand friendship gesture and tells Todd that he values his relationship -- and actually proves it by remembering the story of how they met.
In season 3, Bojack does nothing to sabotage Cabracadabra, but he does sleep with Emily for no reason at all. By the end of season 3, Todd has outgrown Bojack and doesn't want or need to live with him anymore.
In season 4, Bojack offers up his couch to Todd, but he turns him down. Todd is no longer dependent on Bojack, which may have been the thing that made their relationship work. They didn't interact much in season 4, and I'm unsure if they will continue to have a friendship.
Bojack has grown a little bit; from sabotaging Todd so he will have to stay, to openly asking him to stay. But Todd has grown too, perhaps too much for their friendship to continue.
Bonus: Comforting Beatrice with lies.
There isn't really a parallel situation for this one, but it is a hugely sympathetic moment from Bojack, so I have to address it. And I really, really love this scene; it's one of the most poignant moments of the series.
Bojack feels pity for his mom, seeing how vulnerable she is, and he can't bring himself to be mean to her. Again, just try to imagine season 1 Bojack in this position. He's grown so much, and I love him, okay?
Take-aways
1) You are the things that you do. This is a major take-away from the show, and reflected in one form or another by several characters.
2) You are redeemable, but you have to put in the work. The fourth season makes this clear. Bojack is putting in some effort, and good things happen to him as a result. We're supposed to root for Bojack -- he's the protagonist no matter how flawed.
3) You aren't entitled to forgiveness, and seeking out forgiveness is often selfish. (See: Bojack demanding that Herb forgives him on his deathbed; Bojack re-traumatizing Penny in a misguided attempt to make amends.)
Sarah Lynn says that making amends is a never-ending cycle where you always end up feeling good about yourself, no matter how many bad things you do. This is clearly the wrong way to look at it. You're only redeemable if you change your behavior. To paraphrase Todd: You can't live in a cycle of doing bad things and apologizing.
4) Feeling bad about yourself helps no one. It doesn't make up for the bad things you did, and it can often make things worse. Bojack distances himself from Hollyhock out of his own self-loathing, and Hollyhock understandably takes this to mean that he doesn't like being around her. Luckily, they clear the air about this. Bojack is honest about his behaviors. The moment when he forces himself to stop his negative thought-spiral, and go talk to her is so important.
It's okay to need alone time, obviously, but you need to communicate this to the people that you care about so they don't think you hate them. When you're in a bad mood about an un-related thing, just tell that person.
So, are you a bad person if you relate to Bojack?
No, of course not. He has some relatable character traits that are rarely seen on TV. Personally, his habit of avoiding people he has tension with and making it worse, is... very me. But the show can be therapeutic. It's nice to see characters deal with these problems, and actually solve them.
The show doesn't glorify Bojack's bad behavior. "You are the things that you do" is a pretty harsh message, but one we should all take to heart.